Re: Re: US tariff retaliation
By: paulie420 to Jimmy on Thu Mar 13 2025 06:07 pm

I HEAR your comparison about how the extremes of both sides, but in my experience [I live in Portland, OR - might be a part of it...], taking away

I have lived in AK for the past 30 years, and we typically tend to think of ourselves as more of a "purple" live and let live state, so I don't know how much of that influences my answer.

I only know a few personally who grudgingly voted for Trump or Harris, but willnot particiapte in all of the outward displays of nonsense. These people (2
Trumps and 3 Harris) seem to be much more willing to have intelligent conversations. Anyone else I know personally who participates in all of the outward displays of nonsense from either side will absolutely not even considerlistening to someone from the other side. My personal sphere seems to include
about an equal number of both, and my personal observations (without any scientific blind studies) conclude that neither side is more or less obtuse about it than the other.

I recently moved to the Mississippi Gulf Coast as a "pre-retirement" move - allof my 5 kids have grown and left the house and I could no longer stand the coldand the shoveling. I've only been here for about 8 months, so I have not reallyhad a chance to "get in the weeds" with people politically to see if it's any
different here. There did seem to be just as many trump flags flying in peoplesyards, off the backs of their trucks, and maga hats as there were back in AK.
But much fewer Harris signs, which is probably to be expected.

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Re: US tariff retaliation
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Mar 14 2025 09:17 am

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new hires or transfers. they were probably in a position that was not

eeded.

They can get on their job site and get a better job most likely.

Incorrect. Probational employees also include those who were recently promoted, you know because they were doing a good job. This is a good

i dont believe that. you dont get put on probation when you are promoted. it's not the same as a job xfer. in the fed govt everything has codes and forms and shit and everything is separate.

Now that they are being forced to hire them all back, with backpay, you
must also realize that, for the ones who really were not doing their job it is going to be more difficult to get rid of them. They now have
evidence that they were "targeted previously for no reason" so going after them again is going to be a lot tougher.

That's your interpretation of it. i disagree.
so they had off and they get back pay. so what? they had a little vacation and no harm done.

dude you must not know much about working as a fed. sometimes there are screwups and people miss a month's worth of pay. being a federal employee is like working in a world of bullshit and red tape.

Correct, the President hasn't been in office that long but in the short
time his lackey... or master... Elon has managed to screw a bunch of stuff up.

Elon is a lot quicker at screwing stuff up than sleepy Joe, but that
doesn't make what they are doing "efficient."

you sound like you caught a case of the TDS.
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BTW there is now a road into Tuktoyaktuk (I heard), that helps for another

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actually on the Arctic Ocean.

There is now a road there. Used to be only an ice road during the winter,
but it has been replaced with an all-weather road. A couple of the travel channels on YT have diven/covered it.


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I think it is deeper than that. It trascends indentity politics.

I can think of many labels to apply to my school time. "Jail" is one. "Cult to Mediocrity" is another. See, the problem is that back in the
90s it was parents who were ok having mediocre kids who achieved
mediocre results. With no preasure from home to become anything better, the small percentage of nerds who wanted to at least try was frowned
upon from both their classmates and the teachers. I mean, if you are a lazy bumass, if the guy next seat is trying to get his homework done within schedule, he is somehow highlighting you are not, right?

And the problem there is parents trained their children to not give a flying fuck back then, and these children are now adults who don't give
a flying fuck today. Therefore you have computer scientists in charge of development teams who don't know how git branches are merged because
they don't give a flying fuck.

I don't consider myself very good at anything I do, but seriously, last time I was at a selection process for a job they took a bunch of candidates and put us to the test for half a month. First task they
asked from us candidates was to set a Git repository. By the end of the selection process only 2 of us had created a repository with commits in it. The rest were sitting on their lazy asses because nobody gave a
flying fuck about Git.

Man, I can't believe I am a grumpy old grandpa already. I am not even 40 yet.

I love this reply - I've done a few git commits in my day, and still don't understand it... but if you told me a job hinged on it I could figure the whole process out in less than 15 mins... :P

I'm just an old man - and yer right behind me... wait; I don't like how that sounds. Cheers, Arelor.



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Canada has had marketing boards for decades and they can be quite powerful having alot of control with government. Beef, milk, and egg marketing boar come to mind. It causes the government to attach tarrifs to any incoming products in these catagories to control the prices up here. I believe we p way more than you guys for these items.

I live in the country and get many of these items directly from the source Gov always say that foreign milk and eggs are inferior and think that is j plain bullshit. :-)

Its kinda crazy that we're going to see if team Trump bring the milkshake to to the yard; what do you think the over/under is??? :P



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He has done better on the border, I will give them that. I would also note that this is one area where Elon didn't get his hands into it so
that could be why.

As for the economy, the markets would disagree with you there.

Really? I implore you to look at the first Trump POTUS. The economy was blowing up for the vast majority of his term. Only Covid slowed it down, at the very end...



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He has done better on the border, I will give them that. I would also note that this is one area where Elon didn't get his hands into it so that could be why.

As for the economy, the markets would disagree with you there.

Really? I implore you to look at the first Trump POTUS. The economy was

lowin

up for the vast majority of his term. Only Covid slowed it down, at the very end...

The first Trump POTUS was not bad at all until COVID. The first Trump
POTUS also did not include Elon Musk, did not include tariffs against
Canada, was not post COVID, and did not include several other things that this one does. It also was not post Trump losing in 2020 and getting all pissed
off about it.

If the Trump from the first term were running the country, I would very
likely not have many/any complaints. I was happy enough with the first
term that I voted for him in 2020. But, so far, this term is nothing
like the previous one.


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The first Trump POTUS was not bad at all until COVID. The first Trump POTUS also did not include Elon Musk, did not include tariffs against Canada, was not post COVID, and did not include several other things
that this one does. It also was not post Trump losing in 2020 and
getting all pissed off about it.

If the Trump from the first term were running the country, I would very likely not have many/any complaints. I was happy enough with the first term that I voted for him in 2020. But, so far, this term is nothing
like the previous one.

And exactly the reasons that I'm happy about it - I suppose we'll get to see how these actions will play out. :P I'm on the bullish side.



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