How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple access under the same account ?

I've noticed times, when I read messages and I come back a day or two later, and the pointer has fallen back to messages I have read.

Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?
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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple

it fucks up for me if i lost my connection.
what problems are you having?
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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

Message pointers are saved when a user logs-off, disconnects, or uses the '&W' command to save them while logged-on.

Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple access under the same account ?

The pointers are read during logon and kept in memory until log-off/disconnect. A second login can use the '&R' command to reload the message pointers from disk if they know the other session has read some messages. The last one to log-off/disconnect will have *their* message pointers saved, but only for the sub-boards they actually read messages in.

I've noticed times, when I read messages and I come back a day or two later, and the pointer has fallen back to messages I have read.

If you're logging into the terminal server concurrently with the same account, that could explain that.

Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?

I think so.
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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

'&W' command to save them while logged-on.

oh i didnt know about that. is that documented or is it in one of the whatsnew files?
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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Feb 23 2025 11:29 pm

Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

'&W' command to save them while logged-on.

oh i didnt know about that. is that documented or is it in one of the whatsnew files?

It's on the '&' menu in the default command shell:

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³ Message Scan Configuration ³
ÀÄßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßÙÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜ
Û N Areas to scan for new messages ßÛ
Û S Areas to scan for your messages Û
Û P Set new-scan pointers Û
Û I Reinitialize new-scan pointers Û
Û R Reload new-scan config & pointers Û
Û W Save new-scan config & pointers Û
Û²ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄIJÛ
Û Q Quit to Main/Message menu Û
ÛÛÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÛÛ

in v320_new.txt:
o New stock JavaScript modules:
- msgscancfg.js and filescancfg.js
Replaces logic previously copy/pasted into multiple Baja command shells

and in the Git commit log: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/bb5b9d869
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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?

DDMsgReader is using the same pointers (as far as I know) and should behave the same.

Nightfox

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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Feb 23 2025 11:29 pm

Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

'&W' command to save them while logged-on.

oh i didnt know about that. is that documented or is it in one of the whatsnew files?

It's on the '&' menu in the default command shell:

ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
³ Message Scan Configuration ³
ÀÄßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßÙÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜ
Û N Areas to scan for new messages ßÛ
Û S Areas to scan for your messages Û
Û P Set new-scan pointers Û
Û I Reinitialize new-scan pointers Û
Û R Reload new-scan config & pointers Û
Û W Save new-scan config & pointers Û
Û²ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄIJÛ
Û Q Quit to Main/Message menu Û
ÛÛÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÛÛ

in v320_new.txt:
o New stock JavaScript modules:
- msgscancfg.js and filescancfg.js
Replaces logic previously copy/pasted into multiple Baja command shells

and in the Git commit log: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/bb5b9d869
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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 09:07 pm

Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is
there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user
logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers
keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a
synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to
multiple

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I read through a group; and then come back later and it reloads -- and brings back messages I've seen.

So obviously, I just need to read at one place. Or be sure to go to messages and &W; before jump to another session.
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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is
there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user
logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

Message pointers are saved when a user logs-off, disconnects, or uses the '&W' command to save them while logged-on.

Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers
keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a
synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to
multiple access under the same account ?

The pointers are read during logon and kept in memory until log-off/disconnect. A second login can use the '&R' command to reload the message pointers from disk if they know the other session has read some messages. The last one to log-off/disconnect will have *their* message pointers saved, but only for the sub-boards they actually read messages in.

Thanks for the explanation. I will try and login from one location when doing mail.
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Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Mon Feb 24 2025 10:14 am

Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are
using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?

DDMsgReader is using the same pointers (as far as I know) and should behave the same.

Nightfox

Thanks Nightfox
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